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maletramp 64M
2092 posts
4/18/2014 9:23 pm

MistressHonore.. I'm not married.. And I would likely only cam for a Mistress with whom I have had a long term relationship, and then only because it is her interest. You might not be aware of how unique you are. There is no reliable statistics on the percentage of women who are sexually Dominant, nor are there for males sexually submissive. But one thing is quite clear JUST from the volume/ traffic on this site: The ratio of sub males to Domina females is likely near 10:1.

A common thread you will see at many of the chat rooms is: "How do I get my wife interested in XYZ".. The XYZ runs the gamut of sexual fetishes. Most of those men typically attest to the fact they have tried to persuade their wives and they get responses like "oh that's sick!" In my own life I have tried to broach some rather tame sexual kinks with "vanilla" females, and the results have not been pleasant. Typically, the woman might "go along" but you often have lost their respect and a change to the relationship does occur.

The process that seems to leave dignity, and somewhat works, is to slowly incorporate fetish concepts into the dialogue. If they will tolerate pornography, then you might be able to persuade them to participate. But, the vast majority of those married males will tell you their wives are completely against their fetishes. If you know of a way for them to change their spouse to be more tolerant of their desires, you'll be a hero to millions.


maletramp 64M
2092 posts
4/20/2014 12:24 pm

Mistresshonore: Your words are music to the ears of all male submissives.. To the male that wants to worship a female, he can't imagine how all the women who complain of sexual frustration or inadequacy, fail to realize that everything they desire is available if they would simply require it.

I've been lucky enough to meet a few special women who found by nourishing a fetish I already had, they could instill new ones in me that they desired.

But you are preaching to the choir, with me. You've put the following thought in my mind: You're obviously a woman that leads people, not just male subs. And you remind me of the old "saying" that women dress for other women, not for men. I suspect women, not men, also set the cultural norms for other women. So, when you are talking with your female friends, do you express the eroticism, the power, the liberty, the excitement, the joy, the happiness, the fulfillment, the adoration received, the glory of being a Domina with your men. Do you explain how "real men" ARE submissive to the woman they adore? Chivalry in males is a good thing, yes?

I really don't think men are going to persuade women of the great benefits of male submission. Granted, subtle positive portrayals in movies, tv, books, plays, etc. could influence the acceptance. But women will accept it far more easily, if the women they are "dressing for" are also saying "oh wow, it's so sexy" about the male she has at her feet.

I wrote something about the nature of male submissive that actually fits into this dialogue. I'll find it and copy it here, and hope you'll find time to reply.

Thanks so much for your feedback. It's amazing how such a simple gesture makes one feel connected, and "less a freak", when you realize others share such core views, especially when the person sharing those views is precisely the gender and Dominant, that you'd like to appeal to as a submissive. I know it isn't easy being a female domina in a vanilla world, but it seems even less accepting to be a "male submissive" in that same world.


maletramp 64M
2092 posts
4/20/2014 12:42 pm

BTW Mistresshonore, that dress is wonderful torture; : ) Thanks..

Here's the comment i made regarding male subs vs doms; curious if it fits with your ideas also?

The great error of "the scene" is the labeling of things that end up having no meaning. The great error of most things in life typically begin with the use of words that not only have no consistent meaning, but actually evolve to the point where the word means the opposite of what it was designed to convey.

Perhaps a new set of definitions for "dominant" and "submissive" need to be proposed to clarify precisely what the words are intended to mean. Maybe, unique definitions need to be proposed for each gender and then more for each sexual variety. But should I be employed to define a Male, heterosexual, submissive, I'd propose he is devoted to precisely the chauvinism of the knights of the roundtable. He wishes to adore, worship and protect his Mistress. He wants to pleasure her in all ways she desires. He lacks the narcissism that causes him to strike her when she fails to please him. The focus is always on her well being, not his own. This is NEVER for lack of self love. He is comfortable in his own uniqueness, regardless of the dictates of society, or others, who would set rules for his behavior. He realizes the female is special; deserving of a throne; obeyed in love not fear; cherished for her difference not commonality; and perhaps above all listened to because she is different, not similar.

If these be the traits of a dominant male, then I am confused.



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