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prpackaged 80M  
740 posts
2/9/2018 5:50 am

Given that all things are negotiable, an agreement between the Dom and sub would change the hard limits. If it is non-negotiable, then it should not be ignored. It is trust that leads to better pleasure between people. If the hard limits are not honored then the trust cannot be there.

The blackest lie is a partial truth that leads you to the wrong conclusion.


msfunfor 63M
10580 posts
2/9/2018 8:32 am

hi
does that mean you are in a situation where this could /is happening ?
congrats if you are .
however i think your poll is skewed,,,,,since you wrote never in all caps,,,,,
,,,seems like leading the poll audience
?
be good
M

.


jenny14 75T  
90051 posts
2/9/2018 9:19 am

p_h

Welcome back!

A Hard Limit is just that for a reason and ignoring it, is abuse!!!


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


RavishYou1955 68M  
211 posts
2/9/2018 12:01 pm

    Quoting  :

Absolutely agree with everything you said and did.


drmgirl622 68F  
25821 posts
2/9/2018 3:50 pm

Any and all hard limits must always be honored........there is never a reason to violate that trust and understanding.


HW13KineticBlue 55M

2/9/2018 9:08 pm

Over the years, i have adjusted my OWN "hard limits" as i have grown in the lifestyle. That said, however;
- If he is a REAL man, this will NEVER be an issue.
- If he is not sober, there should be NO PLAY!
- Discipline is discipline, not breaking rules and trust, especially with intent.
i stand by my answer - NEVER!!!
Seems the readers also agree.
kisses, -Russ


rosaenaluin 65F
10779 posts
2/10/2018 1:18 am

The thing is, when there is not a constant flow of open communication, when the 'sub', is not able to openly discuss things she dont like, there will never be enough trust, it al will be game, all play..

Also, in a commited relation, where there is a open approach on anything....

Hard limits can become soft limits,
Even hard limits are not always written in stone.

The vanillaplaydoms, almost always want to go for your hardlimits, i have noticed in the Dutch scene, that meaning, they havin got a clue what BDSM is all about.
Since almost 88 % is such playdom....
Dangerous fuck-ups!

Discipline has nothing to do with hardlimits, as a "dom" you must be very braindead, when you use a hard limit to punish your "sub"...

Discipline/ Punishment is NOT play.
punishment is for many a fetish, (do things wrong on purpose, so he has to punish you, oh my! horny! NOT.)

wich can make it a funishment, as it is for most playvanillas.


freddiewoodville 64M  
12 posts
2/10/2018 6:20 am

What is the point if having hard limits if you are going to ignore them
They are there so both parties enjoy thier time tigether
Never ignore hard limits it shows you dont care and havent listened


slaaf85_91 61M
447 posts
2/10/2018 9:16 am

In the gay world this may be slightly different. I tend to pass my limits not willing to spoil the situation for the Dom who works out his sm desire on my body. I put myself many times at risk, but it seems stronger than my common sense.

Being different from the majority of people as homosexual my pleasure is in being used by others...


DancingDom 74M
22444 posts
2/10/2018 4:15 pm

You never ever break a hard limit. And don't be a pest trying to convince a submissive/bottom to do it anyway. Nothing wrong with occasional asking one to consider doing such. But insistence questions/requests are at the very least annoying. But they will seem like pressure and coercion to the submissive/bottom. Keep asking often adn you are sure to soon be looking for a new submissive/bottom.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


msub4FLRUSA 60M

2/11/2018 11:27 am

Hard limits exist for a reason. Over time with knowledge, trust and safety you may soften your stance but until then they should be respected.


MissLoveParty1 42F  
64 posts
2/12/2018 10:13 am

People establish hard limits for good reasons. Responsible people respect and follow limits. How can you build trust if you violate hard limits?


slaveUser1960 61M
28 posts
2/15/2018 6:13 pm

hard or dangerous thats the question


yoling 41F

2/16/2018 8:51 am

while women say that is" hard limits", meant No...even be pushed


yoling 41F

2/16/2018 8:55 am

Hard limits are meant=never do it, dont want do it,.......meant NO


Yocum1976 47M
21 posts
2/18/2018 7:01 am

In my own opinion, hard limits are NEVER ignored, but they can be crossed ONLY if the sub expressly requests, AND CONFIRMS, that they are freely requesting that the limit in question be pushed/crossed.


Slave2every1 66F  
9 posts
2/18/2018 7:18 pm

I don't know how others feel about hard limits, but as a slave, I do have hard limits and my Master has the same or even more hard limits.
Even so, not all slaves wish to relinquish their right to have their mental, emotional, psychological or physical safety protected from even their Master. Consent is not flexible - it's YES meaning you have consent to do that, or anything else (including no answer) meaning if you do that, you will have to deal with the law! Assault / battery / abuse etc. are serious offenses.
If I tell my Master before they collar me about a HARD limit, that means at no time will I be giving consent to do that thing, even if I am totally drunk and flying on endorphins. Even if I say 'yes' in such a state, it's still a violation. Hard limits are hard. Don't ever ever push them! Period.

slave ashleigh



In exquisite beauty and absolute obedience,
slave2every1 ashleigh

slave # 216-591-948
kik: Jashleigh1


Plz2BNuPeg 71M

2/21/2018 12:00 pm

A clear violation of trust and should not be tolerated


fattedick 65M

2/22/2018 4:40 am

Never ever. Respect on both sides


blushred1000 56F
10 posts
2/25/2018 1:24 am

Hard limits are there for a reason, it's not a toy you can pick up and throw around or be used for others enjoyment. A limit is a limit for a reason, it is why its called safe sane consensual after all. IF and that's a big IF you been with a Master/Sir etc for a long long time both can look at the agreement and alter but until then it is not right to breach that trust and brake the hard limit.slave or sub or bottom


docile_1_4u 65M
113 posts
2/26/2018 9:51 am

Never. That's the definition of a hard limit.

f the submissive changes over time, it may no longer be a hard limit, but as long as it is, the answer remains, never.


IThirst4USir 60M
272 posts
3/4/2018 3:14 pm

As Glenn0725 commented, "Never means never."


slaaf85_91 61M
447 posts
3/6/2018 3:30 am

    Quoting slaaf85_91:
    In the gay world this may be slightly different. I tend to pass my limits not willing to spoil the situation for the Dom who works out his sm desire on my body. I put myself many times at risk, but it seems stronger than my common sense.
Luckily I have no allergies. To give an example I have been with guys who loved watching me suffer crucified. At a given point the pain eases when arms feel paralyzed. When I was taken from the cross, I suffered on the ground to get back control on my muscles. I have been scared in certain situations that I feared to end up as an anonymous naked body dumped in the woods. One time I got buried till my neck in a hole in a forest. it took me hours to free my body out of the ground, standing naked in the middle of the night in the woods. I did quit seeing certain sadists who went too far. But during a sessionI tend to undergo. Being immobilized there is often no alternative.

Being different from the majority of people as homosexual my pleasure is in being used by others...


timesdwell 27M

3/17/2018 8:24 am

maybe it should never happen no limits points


timesdwell 27M

3/20/2018 10:05 am

Whenever its agreed on both sides


daughterformum 44F
5 posts
4/4/2018 1:36 pm

Hard Limit is like a signal on the road: It means NEVER DOING IT
The limits are discussed before starting a relationship Owner-slave so they became the road where the Owner can move as He like..but He goes out from the road he is out of my life. Becuase i lost the trust on him and that is all in a relationship


doyou1000 66M

5/8/2018 1:10 am

Whatever the situation mutual respect is the key to both pain and pleasure


SirMasterBishop 64M
3 posts
5/8/2018 7:14 pm

Never, even in a CNC relationship people do have Hard Limits unless you have consented to full blown CNC that is.


JohnnyLightning 65M  
9506 posts
1/1/2019 10:34 pm

    Quoting  :

If the police and a prosecutor get involved you could be looking at serious consequences. A written contract could help but it's only as good as the paper it's written on.

Howling at the moon and mal ad osteo.


rdy4all 66M
2 posts
1/29/2019 8:12 am

Never, but I might bring them up in conversation if I feel like pushing your buttons.



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